I'm a philosophy student that tends to post about really serious things unseriously and about really unserious things seriously.
I was once described as a "beautiful, intelligent iguana".
A type of insomnia without dibilitating effects. People with nonsomnia tend to range from only needing a few hours of sleep per week, to a few hours of sleep every few months. And again: There’s no documented side effects, as far as I’m aware. Memory rentention is the same, there’s no loss in problem solving skills, or generally no loss of cognitive faculties. The one reported side effect is depression, but that’s just due to being awake when everyone they know is asleep.
Nonsomnia really complicates standard ideas of why we need to sleep. Mostly I hear that sleep is necessary for organizing and retaining memories. But nonsomnia throws a wrench in this theory, because of the fact - as I’ve mentioned - there’s no problems with memory with people that have nonsomnia. This is further complicated by the fact that nonsomnia isn’t genetic, from what I understand, but is usually due to some sort of damage in the brain (stroke, or something - there’s really not enough informaton on nonsomnia to tellhowit happens, but we are rather certain it’s not genetic).
I don’t know. Nonsomnia’s really interesting to me.
HOW is this a thing? I don’t understand.
This sounds interesting in theory but
not a single major medical, psychiatric, or scientific website lists it at all. Nor does wikipedia. The tumblr tag is pretty much the first time it comes up. There is only one scientific article that references it- from 1973. This article details one specific case of it happening.
Furthermore it’s been proven that, while we still don’t know the function of sleep, without slow-wave sleep and REM sleep, rats die. (I challenge you to find an ethics board that would let you try this with human patients.)
As there were no follow up articles written about this patient, and no further cases reported, I’d suggest that this was a very bizarre fluke at most, however, unfortunately it is also possible that this patient was tested before reaching the point at which her sleep deprivation also killed her.
It’s worth noting that regardless of what sensationalized news and magazines tell you, we still don’t know the function of sleep. We know that people show some kinds of deficits when prevented from sleeping, but we do not know if those are direct functions of sleep or functions that are sacrificed as a compensatory mechanism when sleep is lost. We just don’t know much yet about sleep.
It is also worth noting that while we may speculate about the cause of depression in a patient like this, we again, cannot eliminate enough variables to conclude a cause. Furthermore as depression is not just a change in thoughts, but a change in physical chemicals, it is rarely situational, and nearly always has biological underpinnings.
In short, I find this extremely unlikely- perhaps it occurred once in 1973, or perhaps not. At any rate, no cases have turned up since then that have been confirmed, and the medical community as a whole has not done any research on this condition. All “facts” listed above appear to be speculation based on a single article that did not cover a large time span nor have a large sample size, making the conclusions drawn in the article extremely unlikely to apply to a larger population, and all further extrapolation even harder to believe.
Sorry, just your friendly neighborhood neuroscience major, here to tell you that sometimes you’ve got to use google scholar. Remember kids- if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is!
Nights, can I just
Your scientific refuting was beautiful
I’m basically crying over here from the loveliness of all of that
Oh, wow, this was from a while ago. I just noticed this.
Point being, I doubt your reading comprehension skills (the both of you), or at least your abilities to check back in to the discussion to get some context for what was said. I didn’t cite articles, because as I was saying earlier, most of this information I had received from my neuroscience roommate, whose been doing some general research into the topic in his off-time (not as something rigorous, but as a slow perusal).
Also, there’s lots of points wrong with what nightsinwonderland wrote.
So, sorry, just your friendly neighborhood dude with a sense of decent research and reading comprehension here calling bullshit on your holier-than-thou approach to science based upon your pathetic appeals to authority (“neuroscience major”) and piss-poor ability to read and actually engage with what I wrote (which was, in the first place, a toss off comment, which - again - should have been obvious and which I shouldn’t have had to explain/make explicit).
Remember kids - just fuck off. I don’t even feel like parodying this properly.